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Bob Hurley
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posted 02-25-2002 07:03 PM     Profile for Bob Hurley     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I just stumbled across this bookseller, and thought some of you would be interested in their offerings:
http://www.acanthus-books.com/

The earliest facsimile type cookbook I saw was 1685, but the modern reprints and translations go back to 2ndC BCE and they have a good half-dozen 15th century works.


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Fire Stryker
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posted 02-26-2002 02:46 PM     Profile for Fire Stryker   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Cool. This is the place where I picked up the Babees Book of Manners.

Thx!

~J


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Martin
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posted 07-13-2004 01:56 AM     Profile for Martin     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote

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Friedrich
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posted 07-13-2004 08:33 AM     Profile for Friedrich   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Martin, thanks for the info as I had no idea that this was available. I did a search, and also came up with this one which looks promising... Have you reviewed this one?

Rheinfränkisches Kochbuch (um 1445).
Tupperware Deutschland GmbH, Frankfurt am Main, Germany 1998.
Text, Übersetzung, Anmerkungen und Glossar von Thomas Gloning.
ISBN 3-403-03131-4

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Martin
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Martin
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posted 07-19-2004 11:35 AM     Profile for Martin     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote

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Roger d'Entença
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posted 10-22-2007 04:01 PM     Profile for Roger d'Entença     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Do you know these links ? Both from Maître Chicart :

Manuscrits et livres de cuisine en Europe médiévale http://www.oldcook.com/livres_cuisine_europe.htm


http://www.oldcook.com/livres_cuisine_catalan.htm

I quote :
"Au 13e siècle, les premiers textes de cuisine médiévale en catalan ont été écrits avant le Viandier de Taillevent, le Forme of Cury et le Ménagier de Paris. La cuisine catalane est méconnue. Pourtant elle a beaucoup influencé la cuisine italienne.
"Libre de Sent Sovi
"Le Sent Sovi est un texte anonyme écrit en catalan, vraisemblablement en 1324. Transcrit par Rudolf Grewe, Els nostres classics n°115, ed. Barcino, Barcelone 1979. Ce manuscrit contient 222 recettes, qui marquent les débuts de la cuisine catalane, avec ses techniques spécifiques : le sofregit et la picada."


It is interesting to say that the author of the "Libre de Sent Soví" claimed to have cooked for the King of England.

Regards.
Miquel


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Marianne
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posted 09-29-2008 07:54 AM     Profile for Marianne   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I now have a copy of Sent Soví (a translation into Spanish), if you'd like me to look up anything.

Marianne


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Roger d'Entença
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posted 09-30-2008 10:01 AM     Profile for Roger d'Entença     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hi Marianne.
Thank you for your message.
I own the Catalan version of the book.
My cooking is rather primitive but if you want to discuss some aspect of the book I'll be glad to.
( I am fluent both in Catalan and Spanish.
Primitive English,,sorry ).

Regards,
Miquel


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Marianne
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posted 10-22-2008 02:05 AM     Profile for Marianne   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
That's great. I've been too busy to do much with it yet. But I'll try to get back to it. It's great to be able to check translations for accuracy, for example.
Have you tried any dishes from it already?

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Roger d'Entença
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posted 10-23-2008 09:56 AM     Profile for Roger d'Entença     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hi Marianne

I have not yet tried any recipe form Sent Soví.
After reading your post I think of starting by a simple sauce : the "almedroc" ( "almedroch" , "almodrote" ).
In my book Chapter CXXXI
INGREDIENTS
-1 toe of garlic ( I mean one piece of the bulb ; "1 gra d'all" in Catalan ; "1 diente de ajo" in Spanish )
-some gratted cheese
- ( some warm-hot water )

Just mix the ingredients ( better with mortar & pestle) until obtainning a homogeus paste.
There is a way to proceed :
First put the garlic and reduce it to a paste.
Add the gratted cheese by small amounts.
If the sauce is too thick use some hot water...drop by drop.

USES
With meats , fish, salads , with bread toasts....
I'll try "spaghetti & almedroc".

Bon apetit !!!
Miquel

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I own the 1979 Rudolf Grewe edition ( Editorial Barcino , Barcelona ).

There are three editions more :
2006 , Barcino , "El llibre de Sent Soví ", in Catalan
2007 , Barcino , "El libro de Sent Soví", in Spanish
2008 , Tamesis Books , English translation & Catalan
The Book of Sent Sovi : Medieval recipes from Catalonia


Product Description
The Book of Sent Sovi, composed around the middle of the fourteenth century,
is the oldest surviving culinary text in Catalan. It is anonymous and, like the majority
of medieval cookery books, is the product of a complex process of transmission,
with multiple manuscript copies and readers who have left their mark on it.
The contents are eminently practical. Successive cooks have recorded their
own methods of preparing the dishes and recipes included, blending several
culinary traditions in a single work. Sent Sovi is also a reliable source of information
on the cookery of the territories of the Crown of Aragon before the revolution caused
by the arrival of products from the Americas.

This edition includes both an English translation, by Robin Vogelzang, and the original
Catalan version. It has been the editor's aim to clarify the difficult passages in the book
- sometimes corrupted because of the complex manuscript tradition - so that it can be
understood as easily as possible by its twenty-first-century readers.
Published in association with Editorial Barcino.

About the Author
Joan Santanach lectures on medieval literature at the University of Barcelona.


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