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Fire Stryker
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posted 03-15-2001 07:40 AM

Hi all,

I don't know if there is anyone on the board who is doing a 14th c Muslim impression, but if you have a horse, I found this book that you might be interested in. I have already checked the regular stores like Amazon, B&N, etc... and it is out of print.

All I have is a title and the merchant that currently holds the book.

Medieval Muslim Horsemanship - A Fourteenth Century Arabic Cavalry manual by Rex Smith British Library, 1979.

36pp, 4 coloured and 16 black and white illustrations. Very good to near fine laminated paper wraps." GBP8.00 ($11-12 US)

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I don't know what the bibliography is like, but it might be interesting.

Jenn

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hauptmann
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posted 03-15-2001 12:41 PM

Just for my information....

What's this got to do with Central Europe in the Middle Ages??

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Fire Stryker
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posted 03-15-2001 01:17 PM

It doesn't have anything to do with Central to Western Europe, but it does qualify as the middle ages. I have no other motive than I thought I would post it as a simple offering if somebody just happened to be doing something along those lines.

The following is an addendum:
...this bulletin board site in order to be a forum to share information pertaining to later Medieval Living History/Re-enactment (1150-1500), Medieval History, and day to day life in the Middle Ages.

Perhaps we are starting to confuse ARMET with the general research and discussion on the board.

Just a thought.

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Friedrich
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posted 03-15-2001 10:21 PM

I find it interesting even if it doesn't really apply to northwestern europe. The arabs had developed some wonderful and challenging skills to learn from.

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Templar Bob
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posted 03-16-2001 06:12 AM

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Originally posted by hauptmann:
Just for my information....
What's this got to do with Central Europe in the Middle Ages??

One phrase: Battle of Nicopolis.

Many knights from Northwestern Europe went "Crusading" against the Ottoman Turkish threat that made great inroads on Central Europe during the Middle Ages.

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Reinhard von Lowenhaupt
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posted 03-16-2001 12:10 PM

And, what's to say that if there were any particularly advantageous manouvers that a crusading knight/chevalier would not have adopted them?

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Kassandra
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posted 03-17-2001 10:03 AM

Greetings all,
I have a copy of Smith's book. It is a small volume, mostly of illuminations, and not much description. He doesn't translate the entire text, which is dissapointing. It is great for looking at barding and costuming, however. I also have been looking at the different ways that lances and spears have been held throughout the middle ages and through different cultures. Most illuminations that I have seen do not show Muslim cultures "couching" the lance as we know it. (there is one pic of a fellow boar hunting, and it is couched there, and an odd older man riding with two spears couched under each arm, but due to the fact that Smith doesn't directly tell us what the text says, it is unknown what is going on)

Anyway, I have found many more useful translations of Muslim manuals(that actual describe excercises that they used to practice for warfare, H. Rabie's being the best. I am still searching for some good Western training manuals..

Kassandra

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Fire Stryker
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posted 03-17-2001 01:01 PM

Thanks Kassandra. I only posted it for those who might be interested. Nice to see that someone has it and can make commentary on its value.

I just ordered a copy of "Ecole de Cavalarie" by Robichon. It's an English translation and just a "tad" outside our time period. Should be a nice addition to the collection in any case as many of the maneuvers can be traced back to within 100 years post our time period.

Graziela Skonieczny Santos (DOM DUARTE E O LIVRO DE CAVALGAR) mentioned that this was a neglected topic in France, England, Spain, and Portugal, which is why King Duarte's manual is so important, but he was sure that there are other manuals hidden in collections just waiting to be discovered. Here' to a wonderful "Easter egg hunt"!

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