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Ulfgar
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posted 03-04-2002 06:40 PM
   
Does any one know where I can get some pictures, preferably in colour, of brass/ bronze/ latten cooking pots (originals)common to the fifteenth century, Tear drop shaped, three legs, a handle and sometimes a lid. Often large enough to hold a basketball.
I am currently saving to have a casting mold made, and have a tame foundry who think re-enactors are cool (BTW they also cast full size, live firing cannons!!!). Hopefully we will have our first pots mid-year. And yes, they will be for sale. Eventually I want to get several molds made for different sized pots.
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Callum Forbes
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posted 03-04-2002 07:17 PM
Great! Let us know when they are ready as quite a few people here are after period cooking pots.-------------------- URL=http://www.jousting.co.nz Facebook [URL=http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1290562306]
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mailleman
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posted 03-28-2002 06:20 PM
I ended up taking a copper mixing bowl and adding some chain-rings to it so that it can be suspended over a fire.I haven't been able to find any suitable non-ferrous cauldrons that I felt safe cooking in. Is my copper mixing bowl safe to cook in over a fire? If not, how would I go about tinning it? I'm given to understand that cast iron pots are pretty much a 15th century and later invention. Is this true? Am I out of luck for circa 1200 for cast iron pots? Steve -------------------- Forth Armoury
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J.K. Vernier
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posted 03-31-2002 02:51 PM
Cast iron in general was not available before the very end of the 15th century, and you were not likely to see a cast-iron pot before the mid-16th century. The form of cast bronze kettles was similar to those later done in iron - you can see such pots in the Luttrell Psalter from c. 1340There is another type of pot which was very common, but which I have hardly seen in reenactment circles. This has a more-or-less hemispherical body beaten out of thin brass sheet, with an iron rim to strenghten the edge, and loops on the rim to support the iron handle. They were tinned on the inside, as all brass and copper pots should be. There is one illustrated in the MoL Medieval Household volume, and identical examples turn up well into the 17th century. One is depicted in a German altarpiece panel (The birth of the Virgin, from the Master of the Life of the Virgin, Alte Pinakothek, Munich, painted in Cologne c. 1460-70). It is clearly tinned on the inside. It is being used to pour water into a washbasin, and was evidently used for heating the water over the fire. The interpreters at Plimoth Plantation use brass kettles similar to this type for the same purpose, but they are using machine-made examples from the 19th-20th century, which turn up at antique shops as "apple butter kettles." An interpreter I spoke to said they need to use brass kettles to heat water because the cast-iron pots will rust if used to boil water.
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Friedrich
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posted 03-31-2002 03:36 PM
Unfortunately THE best place to get cauldrons/pots in bronze was from the Rayne Foundry in the UK that is currently not producing and hasn't for 2 years now but has some wonderful pictures still available.
http://www.castings.fsbusiness.co.uk/ The challenge of bronze is keeping it clean and virdigris free so you do not lead poison yourself. Because of this issue and that I intended to actually cook with them, we were intending to go primarily with cast iron even though they were rare and not yet common. Probably the next best source of commercial grade cauldrons in the UK is from
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/LCVInternational/periodpr.htm Some of the shapes are useable. The cauldrons are reported to not have casting markings (words) on them. The problem is that shipping them to the US was going to be a costly procedure which I still may do eventually or if I finally get over there to visit and try and bring one back. In the US, there are a couple of commercial more modern styles with markings available. There has been ActionAfrica which AM had mentioned. I also discovered just recently that there is another distributor (same line) besides Lehmans called Grtnothern (Great Northern) located in RI that stocks these as well as some 17 and 18th century originals that look promising for 3 legged pots. (I'm cringing at the possible cost of buying antiques.) I'm trying to sort through all my notes and references but I think Nikki had sent me a reference in that some of the English manors had a substantial collection of straight copper as well. I'll keep looking for it. If anyone has any other suggestions, I'd love to hear them as I'm hopefully ordering the metal for my XXL braziers this week and get cooking! FvH
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Doug Strong
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posted 04-03-2002 10:32 AM
Neither one of the companies listed in the preceeding email have any cooking pots available. Anybody out there know where there are some available? I do 1386, Yorkshire, England.-------------------- Doug Strong
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fra.hulettaes
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posted 04-03-2002 11:57 PM
Nevermind. It was redundant.
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