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Topic: leather/buff jerkin
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Amleth
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posted 09-26-2007 07:59 AM
   
Hello all,
I'm looking for some info on late 15. century leather jerkins; anyone can help? This is the best I found so far (Mary Rose):  Anyone here made a reproduction of something like that? Regards,
Daniel, Prague
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jboerner
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posted 09-26-2007 09:19 AM
Late 15th Century? The Mary Rose sank in 1545, which is also the first period I know leather jerkins for...what evidences do you have for late 15th century ones?-------------------- Diu Minnezīt
Reconstruction of textiles, armour and daily life
1250,1350,1475
Nuremberg and Paris
http://www.diu-minnezit.de IG Meisterhauw
Reconstruction of late medieval and early renaissance fencing techniques
http://www.meisterhauw.de Nuremberg in the middle ages
http://www.nuernberg-im-mittelalter.de
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jboerner
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posted 09-27-2007 05:31 AM
Hi Amleth,The question is, do you belive it or do you know it?  I know no real references to such for the middle ages. As for brigantines and coat of plates, the surviving brigantines I know all are rivetted inside canvas, linnen and a covering made from a more expensive material, on most cases silk(!) velvet. Coat of plates, as far as the surviving are concerned, do not offer a real hint on the material originally used for rivetting the plates to, leather is simply speculation, however if you look at the pictoral sources, also a more sophisticated material seems reaonsable, maybe with leather as a base (because of the bigger and heavier single plates) beneath.
Which means: there are hardly any evidences for body amour with leather as a topmost layer, or consisting of leather solely, whatsoever. Which seams reasonable, because leather alone does not offer a real protection against cuts. -------------------- Diu Minnezīt
Reconstruction of textiles, armour and daily life
1250,1350,1475
Nuremberg and Paris
http://www.diu-minnezit.de IG Meisterhauw
Reconstruction of late medieval and early renaissance fencing techniques
http://www.meisterhauw.de Nuremberg in the middle ages
http://www.nuernberg-im-mittelalter.de
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jboerner
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posted 09-27-2007 07:44 AM
Well, first you maybe should devide between research for brigantines in general, and armour user by "the common soldier". It is even not that easy to define the term "common soldier". Generally speaking brigantines in the late 15th century were more common in italy and france, there are hardly evidences for germany.
Then the question is, what region you are interested for. To find some serious information in what the person- and maybe you should define that further- you wanna portrait may have worn, you may want to check some city archives (thats why a regional setting is more convinceable). Of course there are pictoral sources, such as the famous froissart illuminations for france, but those hardly give any hint on who of the persons shown is a "common" person or if he has really worn what is shown in the picture.As for brigantines in general, I highly recommend this book: http://www.diu-minnezit.de/buecher.php?categoryID=-1&o=1&searchString=brigantine&go=Los&tid=3&lid=0
which is basically the "standard" book for that topic. -------------------- Diu Minnezīt
Reconstruction of textiles, armour and daily life
1250,1350,1475
Nuremberg and Paris
http://www.diu-minnezit.de IG Meisterhauw
Reconstruction of late medieval and early renaissance fencing techniques
http://www.meisterhauw.de Nuremberg in the middle ages
http://www.nuernberg-im-mittelalter.de
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