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Tancred
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posted 02-16-2005 08:05 AM

Our living history group are trying to find a source for accurate Anglo-Norman battlefield commands. So far I think we have had little success. Does anyone know of any such resources?

Does this sort of information even exist?

Cheers.

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Seigneur de Leon
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posted 02-16-2005 11:24 PM

I think an Australian who goes by the name Egfroth had a website up on basic commands for a conroi. Try posting the question on the Armour Archive in the Authenticity section.
I had a hard-drive die with all of that information on it. There was also a Saxon site provided by someone else. If I have it on a disc I'll post it, but I think I lost it for good.

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Buran
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posted 02-17-2005 02:14 PM

Dark Age Battle Commands: http://www.42nd-dimension.com/NFPS/nfps_commands.html

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Tancred
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posted 02-18-2005 01:45 PM

Just to clarify about the 'conquest anglo-French' section. Are these the commands the U.K. reenactment group 'conquest' use, or are they orders from the time of the conquest.

They seem very similar to modern french-English. Is this normal for Anglo-Norman, or are these orders slightly inauthentic? They just seem a bit modern?

Thanks for your help Buran. If seigneur de Leon could find his sources that would be fantastic.

Cheers everybody!

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Buran
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posted 02-19-2005 12:35 PM

Yeah, I wonder about that too. Anglo-Saxon is very different from modern English. My guess is that someone took a short cut. Real Norman-French would be good to know.

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Brendan
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posted 04-09-2005 04:16 PM

Folks

I'm the bloke that did the research for the 'Anglo-Norman' orders for Conquest. The commands used are in Old French, Romanz, of which Anglo-Norman is a dialect, and were supplied by Catherine Hanley, one of the UK's top medieval manuscript translators. I was astonished at how close some of the words are phrases were to modern French, but as these came from a recognised expert, I did not argue. As Conquest generally specialise in the 12th century, in which this dialect would have been common among the aristocratic classes, we stuck with that. I originally attempted to find orders in original Norman, but with no success - if anyone can find a source, please let me know.

Might be worth checking out her book 'War and Combat in Old French Literature'.

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Brendan
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posted 04-09-2005 04:27 PM

By the way,

The commands I sourced are not the ones originally published in 'Runestaff' - see Buran's link to the article.

Brendan

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