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Bougrebon
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posted 03-23-2008 05:21 AM     Profile for Bougrebon   Author's Homepage     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
It is easy Miles, Here are the group and leader!

Jean-Francois Meader: Les piquenaires de St-Jean (around 25 peoples, kind of burgundian pikeman): maederdesaxe at hotmail . com

Bernard Rieutord: Les archers de Frontenac (2-3 guys... french archers) brieu at videotron . ca

Jean Merrette: Les levées cantonales (3-5 swiss) napoleon.josephine at sympatico . ca

Finally Us: Les compagnons d'armes (15-20 peoples, burgundian lance, with artillery) hpeloquin at yahoo . com

there's another group call "Les hacquebutiers de Charlesbourg, 3-4 guys with handcannon, and small piece of artillery) Francois Devost (he was'nt at VDf last year)
obradov at hotmail . com

ciao
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posted 03-23-2008 07:21 AM     Profile for La Cuine     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
i have sent to Miles and Charlotte the translation for approval. As for the terms Commission of Array " I had the same words as Hugo had ...but i know there is a more specific term for it in old french military terms...i have asked a friend at the British military school and a friend in Sarbonne to find it for me should be done by Monday night.

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posted 03-23-2008 07:51 AM     Profile for chef de chambre   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
We have a brace of Italian Greyhounds.

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Knechte de Freiheit
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posted 03-23-2008 09:57 PM     Profile for Knechte de Freiheit     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Chef "iggy’s" Italian Greyhound what a great breed those little guys are full of energy I was in south London last summer and the lady who I was working for has some.
In fact I got to see one do a high-speed run at some foxes in the yard which gave me a little fried because the dog was no bigger than a fox himself.


La Cuine I will hold off on circulating to see what you can come up with in old French.

Hugo thinks are the addresses do you have Patrick Doiron e-mail address

Good I needed Bernard Rieutord address I was definitely hoping to invite him.

You need to stop Robbing him
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Bougrebon
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posted 03-24-2008 05:43 AM     Profile for Bougrebon   Author's Homepage     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Patrick doesn't have an e-mail adresse... he his a "low-tech" kind of guy

I can send him some info, or, write to the Equus leader Steve Gagnon

steve@equusproduction.com

He his also the main coordinator for The "St-Colomban Medieval fair" A big show in the beginning of september near Montréal. Maybe you can come to that show to!

I thinks one of his member is on this forum (Caroline Labrie)... maybe you can join them by her.

They do jousting, archery, etc... Great people!

ciao
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Knechte de Freiheit
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posted 03-24-2008 08:19 AM     Profile for Knechte de Freiheit     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I may be back from Japan for "St-Colomban Medieval fair" in time for that Possibly.
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posted 03-24-2008 08:44 AM     Profile for Fire Stryker   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Dogs are Italian Greyhounds (aka - iggies or IGs). The small "courtly" variety. But I can't trust them off leash at this time. We've only had them for two months and like all sight hounds, they like to chase small fluffy things, though ours are very good around cats; don't know about chickens. Right now they bark at horses, only having seen them from a distance once or twice. Our barn has a "no dogs" policy so indoctrinating them will take a little time. So we might have to find a pet sitter.

Evie and Brady. Just so you know, Evie, the parti-color is about 12 lbs and is about the size of the average housecat. Brady is 20 lbs and is about 18" at the shoulder. He's big for an iggy.

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Knechte de Freiheit
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posted 03-24-2008 09:34 AM     Profile for Knechte de Freiheit     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote

Good looking Dogs, Well there 100% Medieval Dogs that would make for good atmosphere in camp.
I can't speak for the other horse owners of my horses rather well with dogs if your dogs were introduced individually to a horse like Tower knowing how shy iggy’s are
they may figure horses are something that they do not need to bark at; one thing the trainer here does is introduce horses and dogs so that the horse will not spook at the site of a dog on trail rides and the like.



That is my horse Tower 1300+lbs. and my frends 4lbs. dog Chula.

As for chickens John's son keeps them pinned up and only take’s them out for a little while usually under the control a kid’s we can make sure to inform dog owners prior to the chicken walkabout so they can have their Dog leash.

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posted 03-24-2008 06:33 PM     Profile for Charlotte   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Cute doggies! I love IGs.

I think it would probably be a good idea for dogs to be on leash for the weekend in any case. The site is wilderness, there may be other dogs and will certainly be lots of kids.

I haven't spoken with John yet, but as Miles says, the chickens and horses can and will likely be penned. My bad - I think the horses were free last time I was there.

-Char


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posted 03-25-2008 02:51 PM     Profile for chef de chambre   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
We generally don't let them run free unless they are in a fenced yard, or a fenced coursing field, as they are sighthounds/coursing hounds, and IGGY's can be startled as well - they aren't always easy to recall.

Leashes, 'crate', and a little pen/stake and rope arrangement are what we were what we were planning. (Tiny wattle enclosure, if I can pull it off).

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posted 03-25-2008 09:28 PM     Profile for Knechte de Freiheit     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Redesdale Uprising – A Commission of Array September 26 - 28, 2008 flyer French translation we are still translating the general information, registration, location and hotel information we hope to soon have it complete.

J'annonce avec plaisir, l'évènement de l'automne de Grey:

La Revolte de Redesdale - : " moustre l'ost" du 23 au 26 septembre, 2008

Le contexte

Nous sommes en juin, 1469. Edward IV donne à Lord Codnor " moustre l'ost" pendant la revolte de Robin de Redesdale. L'insurrection finalement se termine avec la Bataille de Edgecote.

Codnor rassemble la levee de Shire, il exige que ses officiers de faire l'appel de la levee, il vérifie leur équipement, et il détermine leur préparation militaire.

La levee, inclue les archers ainsi que les hommes d'armes, qui seront examinés par les troupes engagées de Grey.

Les Rôles

Les officiers de Grey:font l'appel de la levee, et dirigent les inspections et les exercices pour determiner la préparation des troupes.

Wolfe Argent: Les specialistes "Flamands" Bourguignons, embauchés par Lord Grey pour soutenir ses troupes, ce contingent , (piquiers et Arquebusiers, ainsi que leur officiers) existent tres peu en Angleterre .

Les membres de Grey legerement armes, et autres invités (militaires): Les archers et les hommes d'armes, selon les moyens de leurs equipements. Les archers vont tirer aux taloches/pêches individuellement, et ils vont tirer en formation. Les hommes d'armes vont se pratiquer en formation rangee, comme en battaille.

Aussi, les archers et les hommes d'armes vont etre de corvee d'eau et de bois, et aider selon les necessites pour préparer les repas.

Autres invités (les civils): Les familles, les artisans, le personnel de soutien , les cuisiniers. Se moqueront quand les archers feront des ratées. Jouez des jeux. .S'amusez comme des enfants les plus vieux entrainant les jeunes. Faire la vente et achats de materiel.

Tous: Jouez aux cartes et des jeux, chantez, jouez des instruments pendant le temps mort.

L'Objectif

Chaques individus auraient un but pour le week-end, dépendant du groupe auquel il appartient. Les objectifs exacts seront annoncé pendant le jour lors des réunions des officiers, voici quelques exemples :
- Les archers, les hommes d'armes, et les specialistes recevront une solde au debut de l'evenement. Quiconque accumulera le plus d'argent a la fin du campement sera déclaré gagnant pour son groupe.
- Les artisans et les civils commençeront avec un certains montant d'ecus. Ils essaieront eux aussi de finir avec le plus d'argent possible.
- Les membres du "household" pourront augmenter ou diminuer leur popularite envers le "Lord" en obtenant l'appuis de leurs membres. l'objectif pour le gagnant est d'avoir le plus grand appuis possible.

On peut augmenter ses ecus en pariants, la solde , se faire payer pour des services, acheter et vendre des choses, etc. Quand l'évènement se termine, les gains de chacuns seront comptabilises, et le(s)/la gagnant(e)(s) déclaré(e)(s).


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James Bretlington
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posted 03-31-2008 07:45 AM     Profile for James Bretlington   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Another question (I'm just full of them...)

Is there a maximum lb for the bows? 30 - 35lb?

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Knechte de Freiheit
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posted 03-31-2008 11:21 AM     Profile for Knechte de Freiheit     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
From Longbows -20lbs and up to the 180lbs+ Big Warbows we have a safe long range archery field and we also fire up hill.

Or are you aksing about combat with bows?
Miles

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posted 03-31-2008 12:39 PM     Profile for James Bretlington   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
No, just want to know for the clout shooting. I know some events limit the bows to 35lbs, but not here obviously. Thanks!

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posted 03-31-2008 03:33 PM     Profile for Knechte de Freiheit     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I hope to set up the butts for a very powerful crossbow that Lombard had at Jamestown it's over 500lbs draw and kicks it a shotgun I know I shot it

We will have a range master and range con-troll and some rules.


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posted 04-18-2008 07:37 AM     Profile for James Bretlington   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
OK, still working logistics, but it looks like we will have between 4 and 7 people coming up, probably mainly civilians, (Fletchers and cooks) but possibly a couple of combatants.

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Hi James,

I noticed on the UK reenactors board you were interested in pursuing the Scrope of MAsham household. Were I you, I would not worry about it for this event, as a commission of array review *should* be trhe shire militia, in essence, being reviewd, and a Noblemans household is a seperate logistical artrangement.

In other words, it makes more sense if the people being reviewd are local craftsmen, yeomen and farmers, not attatched to any household, with Lord Grey and his 'captains' doing the reviewing.

And civilians are cool - nothing looks more out of place with scads of soldiers, and no regular folks about.

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James Bretlington
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posted 04-18-2008 01:28 PM     Profile for James Bretlington   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
It was a thought that we had as a group to have some form of livery/household to show us as a cohesive group, so to speak, but I think I agree with the line you are suggesting, so I'll suggest that to the group on Sunday when we meet for music practise and longsword drills.

Ta!

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posted 04-20-2008 10:07 PM     Profile for LHF   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Why not burgndian as long as it's OK with Bob? Does your group have any of the old liveries I made? I actually found the fourth that was never finished in one of the boxes in the basement. All that it needs is to have the border sewn on. I'd be happy to mail it down to you before the event along with the sword I made Alex. Plus the old banner Lisa and I made was stellar. I'd hate to know that it is just collecting dust.

Just out of curiosity who's thinking about making it?

Best,

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Hi Dan,

From the sounds of it there may be a sizable Burgundian contingent anyway, and it is probably better from Bob's explanation to go with the idea of us being the shire levy and civilians. However, we may use the Burgundian items in the future again, as we arer talking of putting on a small camp in Ft Myers, so if you could send down the items, let me know by email (john at foh dot cc), and we can make the arrangements.

Currently we have Jean, myself, Alex, Mala, Alan, Kate Alexander and a new member interested. Planning on shooting weekends and we have longsword practice going on in prep, and padded jacks are in the pipeline.

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Absolutely, I'll send you a PM with more details.

Best,

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posted 04-30-2008 06:06 PM     Profile for Alan F   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Is there any fighting at these events?
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In the past there has been. We had a reenactment combat at RT Calias in 2004, with some of the Greys, with blunts and blunt arrows. At Mont St. Anne in 2005 as well, qnd the Greys have done skirmishes amongst themselves.

On the other hand, if you can't have more than a score or so of people on each side, such combat looks a bit hoaky. I am not sure what is planned, but I would expect there to be some bouts with sword and buckler between some of the men, in addition to archery and the like.

The point, however, is to try to realistically recreate a commission of array, since we are far to few to recreate "The battle of Tewkesbury". The Company of St. George and 1476 do this all the time, as well as St. Olafs guild, and I believe they have had as many as 400 people attending one.

It was the most awesome Medieval reenactment I have ever seen - blows away in visual and feel the annual Tewkesbury battle, which is I believe the largest Medieval reenactment in England, possibly Europe, with a cast of Thousands, usually.

Were we to eventually field enough people to do a skirmish, I am quite sure we will again - all we need is something like 30 combattants.

You do what you can with what you've got. We have done before, and will do again - just need an appropriate number of warm bodies.

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good news on our side,

OUr contract is cancelled, so we are free to go to Redesdale...

just depend on our many can make the trip!

ciao
HUgo


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posted 05-02-2008 02:27 AM     Profile for Knechte de Freiheit     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Cool I'll be back for Redesdale in Sept.
I shoud be back some time in Aug. But I may make a stop in Vietnam.

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