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Fred Piraux
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posted 07-30-2005 04:40 PM
    
Hello Gwen !Good to read Jeff is ok and that they're having fun. Still I don't think Joram is ready to surrender the Sword of Honnour before next easter  ! My recallings are that the August event is for Her Majesty's Golden Jubilee Horn with the garter as an individual token. Regards,
Fred [ 07-30-2005: Message edited by: Fred Piraux ] -------------------- Si vis bellum... ok, you'll get bellum !
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Gwen
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posted 07-31-2005 07:44 PM
Well, tourney's over and as Jeff suspected might happen, Toby won. He's taken up yoga and he thinks it's really improved his jousting, it certainly seems to be the case. Apparently Steve was hitting like a train today, and stove in Stacy's breastplate, bruising his ribs. Jeff said he and Carla are a real team now, but his aim was a bit off so he didn't score high enough to make it to the finals. God how I wish there was someone here for him to practice with!!!  It's a wonder he can hit anything at all without the ability to practice.Anyway, he has one day to rest before flying home on Tuesday. He says he's looking forward to it because, oddly enough, he misses me. Imagine that! 4 weeks to the joust for Her Majesty's Golden Jubilee Horn, and I'll be there to see it this time!  Gwen
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Rod Walker
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posted 08-02-2005 01:27 AM
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Originally posted by Ginevra:
Of all the jousters I know I think Joram and Toby are the most serious. That's not a slight to anyone else, it's just these 2 guys tend to have a deadly intensity to their participation the other guys lack.Gwen
You haven't seen me in action -------------------- Cheers Rod
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Rod Walker
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posted 08-02-2005 02:49 AM
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Originally posted by Ginevra:
I had a feeling you'd get your knickers in a twist about my statement. Gwen
Moi? Looking forward to seeing some more pics and further reports from Jeff. Did I mention that I have finally turned to the light and am in the process of ordering a 15thC harness. Looking forward to returning to more period stuff. -------------------- Cheers Rod
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Lloyd
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posted 08-02-2005 01:45 PM
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Originally posted by Ginevra:
it's just these 2 guys tend to have a deadly intensity to their participation the other guys lack.Gwen
Ahem....
-------------------- Break a Lance, Lloyd Clark
IJA Level 4 Jousting Instructor
Schola St. George Equestrian Combat Instructor
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Diana Peterson
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posted 08-05-2005 11:43 AM
Well, anytime people climb up on a horse, there's risk of unhorsing - I don't think it would be possible to effectively remove that risk without some weird contraptions, and the Germans weren't too lucky with that idea when they tried it in the Renaissance I admit it's the part I'm looking forward to the least in getting into the sport. I've trained and raised horses since I was eleven and taken hundreds of falls over the years (a few shattered bones as well), but the idea of spilling in armor makes me nervous. I'm not sure how naturally I'll be able to fall or if the helm will actually jar my neck and head more than would have occurred otherwise. I was chatting with the head armourer at Leeds, and he was telling Tim and myself how he'd been hurt with a shattered lance through the visor a few years back. It was his first ride since then, and he only felt comfortable in a frog-mouthed helm to get over his (reasonable) trepidation. However, all I could think of was "I'm not sure I'd EVER want to fall in something that weighed that much and was riveted to my breastplate." Comments on falls in armor in general? I'm curious how it works out for people. ---Diana---
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Chevalier
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posted 08-05-2005 02:48 PM
First of all, our goal in scoring is to break the lance on our opponent, either on the breastplate or arm. Heads are not targets, nor are we allowed to hit below the waist, but that's not to say it doesn't happen sometimes. Generally, I prefer if I fall to do it in armour, as the plate, if it's built and fits properly, will help support the body on impact. It is designed to protect, after all.  I've fallen both armed and unarmed and have been injured more in falling unarmed. When I've been unhorsed while armed, I've had it happen with both my armet and my great bascinet and feel much safer in the great bascinet since it's strapped to my cuirass. Nearly impossible to have a neck injury with a fixed helmet as long as it's built right. I suspect it was Andrew Bodley who you spoke with at the Armouries and he does joust now (when he has occasion to, which isn't often as he's now Craft and Megagerie Court manager) in a Brocas replica from Radford. He used to joust in a Sallet and bevor, then later in an Armet w/ wrapper. I suspect he took wood in the face with the sallet, which is hardly surprising, and these days sallets are discouraged at the Armouries jousts. Too many possibilities for injuries. Stechhelms are designed to deflect and support the head. If you have a helm that weighs 20+ pounds, trust me, you want it connected to the cuirass. The only inconvenience with possible unhorsings there is that you're more top-heavy, but you have LOTS of support of your neck. [ 08-05-2005: Message edited by: Chevalier ]
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Rod Walker
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posted 08-05-2005 08:26 PM
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Originally posted by Diana Peterson:
Comments on falls in armor in general? I'm curious how it works out for people.---Diana---
I have had many a fall in and out of harness and like Jeff I would always want it to happen whilst in harness. I was unhorsed last weekend and fell very badly. If I hadn't been wearing my well made and well fitted 16thC harness I am convinced my right shoulder would have been damaged very badly and my neck may have even been broken. My right pauldron is 1.6mm (16gauge) stainless steel and it looks like a piece of crumpled up tin foil from the impact with the ground. My neck is very sore and I went blind in my right eye for about 2 hours. Now, horrific as that all sounds, I shudder to think what would have happened if I hadn't been wearing my harness. I had a fall a few years ago mucking around in the paddock. Luckily I had a riding hat on, as it was I spent 2 days in hospital. The doctor told me that if I hadn't been wearing the riding hat I would have been dead. Well made armours and especially those specifically built for the joust, do a wonderful job of protecting the squishy bits inside. -------------------- Cheers Rod
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Chevalier
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posted 08-24-2005 05:59 PM
Hi all, Gwen here on Jeff's account.Arrived in Leeds early this afternoon. Thomas when are you due? I was able to score you a pair of shoes but if you have any period shoes you know will fit you should bring therm as a backup in case these don't fit. The rest of the outfit is fab. Gwen
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Thomas james hayman
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posted 08-24-2005 06:07 PM
Gwen said Friday and Friday morning it shall be. Good job as I'm rather busy tomorrow morning. Lets all hope they fit or I'll be bare foot, i have nothing remotely medieval in my wardrobe....yet.Flight alright? [ 08-24-2005: Message edited by: Thomas james hayman ] -------------------- The allotment spot
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He said he and Steve had a really fast pass with a big impact; their lances got tangled and off the back he went. He hastened to assure me that he was absolutely fine, Carla was fine and everything was OK. I knew something was up even before he told me, I could sense it in his voice. He said it's only the second unhorsing in all the RA jousts so far, apparently some years ago Andrew Bodley sent Toby flying.
How silly of me. 
