Post New Topic  Post A Reply
my profile | register | search | faq | forum home
  next oldest topic   next newest topic
»  FireStryker Living History Forum   » News and Information   » Events   » Western U.S. LH Gathering Proposal

UBBFriend: Email this page to someone!    
Author Topic: Western U.S. LH Gathering Proposal
John McFarlin
Member
Member # 564

posted 10-21-2005 03:13 AM     Profile for John McFarlin     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Right now I am faced with the unfortunate circumstance that 14th century living history is in its infancy. The events that the company (of which I am a part) attend are unsuited for our purposes as related to living history. In my opinion, there is too wide a variance between our goals and the venues which we are currently set within. Too many externally imposed unpleasantries are present.

The questions I have are like this:

1. Between say, Kansas City Kansas as an extreme eastern longitude and the west coast of North America, how many persons are interested in a HYW/WOR-era (1300 to 1500) gathering of companies are there?

2. If an event was located in a primitive setting purely for the entertainment value and the comeradery of the thing, for the purpose of charging our batteries, showcasing our technology, having some quality goods for purchase or trade, listening to some correct to the era music, engaging in a little sparring or weapons training--would there be interest?

3. What requirements would you have in order to participate in such a gathering?

I need some experience and some wisdom on this matter. I have a year before I will be able to enjoy my hobby, but I can use that year to set something in motion which could profit all persons in the western U.S. interested in high middle ages re-enactment and living history.

John
Jehan de Pelham, esquire (1370-1400 English in France)
Jehan de Pelham, esquire and servant of Sir Vitus

[ 10-25-2005: Message edited by: John McFarlin ]


Registered: Feb 2004  |  IP: Logged
John McFarlin
Member
Member # 564

posted 10-28-2005 08:08 PM     Profile for John McFarlin     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Okay. That's a little discouraging.

How could I have couched this to make it more interesting?

John

[ 10-28-2005: Message edited by: John McFarlin ]


Registered: Feb 2004  |  IP: Logged
Alan F
Member
Member # 386

posted 10-28-2005 11:21 PM     Profile for Alan F   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Why not just ask who would be interested in doing a 14th century event?
Registered: Nov 2002  |  IP: Logged
John McFarlin
Member
Member # 564

posted 10-28-2005 11:46 PM     Profile for John McFarlin     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
That's easy enough. I missed the simple approach--never underestimate the power of re-phrasing.

Who wants to do a timeline 14th and 15th century event in the western U.S.?

I am looking at setting up an event for my group somewhere in the western U.S. I'm looking for people interested in coming along. Sometime Spring 2007. Strong emphasis on kit and exchanging notes and staying entertained with music, medieval pastimes, WMA instruction, good food, gaming at the tables (backgammon), firing a trebuchet, and whatever you bring. The event would not be open to the non-participating public.

John
Jehan de Pelham, esquire (1370-1400 English in France)
Jehan de pelham, esquire and servant of Sir Vitus www.mron.org

[ 10-29-2005: Message edited by: John McFarlin ]


Registered: Feb 2004  |  IP: Logged
Nikki
Member
Member # 27

posted 10-29-2005 10:54 AM     Profile for Nikki   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Missed this thread entirely....

Anyway, I'm in Boulder (CO), and would be interested. My kit is mid 15th. If the location were far away (ie, more than a day's drive), it would need to be long enough to make it worth while. Frex, driving 2 days each way for an event that only really occurs on Saturday is not going to be worthwhile.

If you are going to do timeline, why not open it to a larger spread, like 900-1500? I don't know if there are any groups doing the earlier periods, but more people is good. The east coast timeline events like MTA and MTT are open to Roman-> modern, and do tend to be dominated by post 1600 groups, but they are still lots of fun.


Registered: May 2000  |  IP: Logged
chef de chambre
Admin & Advocatus Diaboli
Member # 4

posted 10-29-2005 11:08 AM     Profile for chef de chambre   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Were we closer, we would be interested as a group. Some of us travel, and as you set a date, some might come out as individuals.

--------------------

Bob R.


Registered: May 2000  |  IP: Logged
John McFarlin
Member
Member # 564

posted 10-29-2005 01:40 PM     Profile for John McFarlin     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
"If you are going to do timeline, why not open it to a larger spread, like 900-1500?"

Hi, Nikki. Good to hear from you. I was beginning to wonder if any LH folks lived west of the Mississippi! : )

To address your very good questions:

I would highly prefer to keep it more tightly focused. Age of mail and plate armor, HYW, WoR, limited to europe centering on western europe. The cultures involved lie on a continuum of history that seems compatible. The coherency (one aspect of aesthetic) of the event will be strained as it is even with the 200 years of timeline given.

Regarding length, I am envisioning a site open for two weekends and the week in-between--nine or ten days (if it's a holiday weekend). Possibly up to fourteen days with days either before and after or before or after. Not everyone will be willing to participate for the entire event, but for those who want their travel time compensated, it's going to be there.

You have piqued my interest, however: Which groups or individuals capable of executing high fidelity portrayals from the era from 900 to 1300 would be excluded?

Bob, thanks for your interest, I will certainly keep you apprised here. I am thinking Spring 2007 (April-June). I want to do something big right after I come back from my extended business trip.

John
Jehan de Pelham, esquire (1370-1400 English in France)
Jehan de Pelham, esquire and servant of Sir Vitus
Compagniye du Chalis 1370 to 1420 ( www.mron.org )


Registered: Feb 2004  |  IP: Logged
Jeff Johnson
Member
Member # 22

posted 10-31-2005 08:00 AM     Profile for Jeff Johnson   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:

You have piqued my interest, however: Which groups or individuals capable of executing high fidelity portrayals from the era from 900 to 1300 would be excluded?

Conroi FitzOsbern - Halvgrim's Norman group.

--------------------

Geoffrey Bourrette
Man At Arms


Registered: May 2000  |  IP: Logged
Marie Chantal
Member
Member # 809

posted 10-31-2005 05:32 PM     Profile for Marie Chantal     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by John McFarlin:
Who wants to do a timeline 14th and 15th century event in the western U.S.?

I'm interested. But there's already "retreat to Calais" in Massachussets as a 15th century gathering that usualy takes place in may. And we've been trying to have one in Canada but there doesn't seem to be much interest here regarding this issue.

What specific area/location did you have in mind ?

Opened to public or private ?

MC


Registered: May 2005  |  IP: Logged
John McFarlin
Member
Member # 564

posted 10-31-2005 09:26 PM     Profile for John McFarlin     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hello Marie,

The location hasn't been decided yet, but Nevada or Utah seems central to most of the interest responses I have received to date--not that I have received many.

This event would be a private event, by and for people who do living history and high fidelity re-enactment.

Depending on altitude of the site, dates in the summer can be possible, but I was considering a date in the April to June 2007 timeframe. Things like this take some time to plan.

Considering that you are much closer to the Retreat to Calais event, and considering that 15th century living history is already decently underway, I understand that this event is of less interest, and I appreciate your sympathy.

John
Jehan de Pelham, esquire (1370-1400 English in France-- www.mron.org )
Jehan de Pelham, esquire and servant of Sir Vitus


Registered: Feb 2004  |  IP: Logged
Charlotte
Member
Member # 620

posted 10-31-2005 10:23 PM     Profile for Charlotte   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Jehan,

Have you ever considered contacting LaBelle Compagnie (1382) and trying to attend one of their events? They're well established, it would just mean a flight for you. One of their members regularly flies in from TX, I believe.


Registered: Jun 2004  |  IP: Logged
John McFarlin
Member
Member # 564

posted 10-31-2005 10:40 PM     Profile for John McFarlin     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I have! Until very recently, I haven't been up to par. This whole thing with Le Compaigniye du Chalis has exploded over the course of the last couple of months, so while I have looked longingly for years, I haven't until recently felt up to the standards. Now I am going on an extended business trip overseas, so I'll be out of the loop for a while until I get back, but I will definitely get in contact with them!

John
Jehan de Pelham, esquire ( www.mron.org)
Jehan de Pelham, esquire and servant of Sir Vitus

[ 10-31-2005: Message edited by: John McFarlin ]


Registered: Feb 2004  |  IP: Logged
Marie Chantal
Member
Member # 809

posted 11-02-2005 07:53 PM     Profile for Marie Chantal     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by John McFarlin:
I understand that this event is of less interest, and I appreciate your sympathy.

Well, I wasn't offering my sympathy. I'm always interested in a good event and I never implied anything that would suggest that your event is of less interest. I was mearly concerned about the conflict in the choice of date.

Though it's true that, the further an event is, the more costly it becomes, which means that spending money for two plane tickets in order to attend an event this far would mean (at least for me) cutting on a bunch of other interesting events instead. I'm not a millionaire so yes, of course the location and date is an important issue for me. I have to be realistic, I won't financialy be able to attend 2 long distance events if they're only a few weeks apart.

I apreciate 14th century events just as much as 15th century ones and if I could afford so, I'd gladly fly to every event humanly possible what if they're in Europe or within america.

MC


Registered: May 2005  |  IP: Logged
John McFarlin
Member
Member # 564

posted 11-03-2005 12:43 AM     Profile for John McFarlin     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Thanks, Marie. No hidden meanings in what I said. I completely understand that each person deals with limited resources and that events that are closer are inherently more interesting because of the cost to pleasure ratio. : )

And if I had my choice, I would go to them all too.

By the by, my sister in law, who works for the BLM, got me some good information on the use of public land. It seems that all manner of group events happen in primitive sites all over the western U.S. I am getting a good grasp on the requirements, which are simply put, to establish systems which minimize ecological impact on the site. Medieval re-enactment can be mildly touching to the environment, but if trash hauloff, human and equine (to a lesser extent) waste management, fire scarring, and erosion issues are addressed having a special use permit might not even enter into it.

Now comes the scouting for specific sites. I want a site that is a transition from wooded land to an open meadow at least a couple of hundred yards wide, with grass (even if it's tall), three to five miles off of a paved road but within fifteen miles of a town. A site that has these characteristics and a water pump or spigot would be about best.

John
Jehan de Pelham, esquire ( www.mron.org )
Jehan de Pelham, esquire and servant of Sir Vitus


Registered: Feb 2004  |  IP: Logged
Marie Chantal
Member
Member # 809

posted 11-03-2005 11:59 PM     Profile for Marie Chantal     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by John McFarlin:
I want a site that is a transition from wooded land to an open meadow at least a couple of hundred yards wide, with grass (even if it's tall), three to five miles off of a paved road but within fifteen miles of a town. A site that has these characteristics and a water pump or spigot would be about best.

Heheh! We've got lots of those down here

In Canada, more specificaly in Quebec, regulations vary a lot from a municipality to another and issues that may be permited by the municipality may be prohibited by the land owner either because of some insurance or sometimes personal issues.

BTW, I checked the "send replies by e-mail" box in my profile but I never EVER get them, I always need to log in to know if someone has replied. Anyone knows why ???


Registered: May 2005  |  IP: Logged
John McFarlin
Member
Member # 564

posted 11-18-2005 02:46 AM     Profile for John McFarlin     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Marie, Canada is a land blessed with natural beauty, for certain!

I don't know the source of your email troubles, sorry...

Okay, update on the event. The event will be held either in Southern Utah or Nevada. Interest seems concentrated in an axis from Los Angeles to Denver along the I-15/I-70 corridor. There are people interested from as far east as Ohio and Philadelphia, and as far north as Calgary. I had someone say that they would be flying in from Germany.

If you're in the western United States, and you're doing Living History, or want to do Living History and you can get a good, basic civilian or military kit together in the era from 1300 to 1500, then please understand this event is off to a promising start. I am seriously considering purchasing a largish marquee and setting it up as an inn/barracks with internal divisions for those who would be willing to fly out.

I have decided that the event should have a modern camping area offset a couple of hundred yards away from the medieval camp, separated by sight and sound distance, for those who can get together sufficient soft and hard kit to participate but who can't get together camp kit. This will be especially helpful to folks getting their start in this.

John
Jehan de Pelham, esquire ( www.mron.org )
Jehan de Pelham, esquire and servant of Sir Vitus


Registered: Feb 2004  |  IP: Logged
John McFarlin
Member
Member # 564

posted 11-24-2005 04:35 PM     Profile for John McFarlin     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Crossroads in Time Event Policies and Guidelines

Premise:

Crossroads in Time is a gathering of individuals and groups for the purpose of enjoying pastimes, exchanging information, conducting mercantile activity, and executing portrayals of persons, practice, and things extant in the mainstream from the era from 1300AD to 1500AD in Europe—spanning the era from just before the Anglo-French Hundred Years’ War to just after the English Wars of the Roses.

Participation in this event is predicated on the requirement of pursuit and execution of a high fidelity portrayal of a typical person living at a certain time and place in Europe, wearing clothes, footgear, and displaying and using possessions appropriate to that time and place.

The event itself is meant to replicate an impromptu crossroads waystop, where nobles traveling between manor houses, soldiers marching to or from ports of departure, civilians en route to places of work or pilgrimage, minstrels and entertainers seeking to make a quick coin or two from the wayfarer, clerics traveling to and from debates and places of duty, and merchants enterprising on the business opportunities presented by this traffic all gather together for a moment before continuing on their way.

Kit Requirements:

General: These requirements apply to items visible to participants outside of enclosed tent structures in or visible from the medieval camp. In all cases the primary emphasis on kit is visual fidelity and evocation of a medieval model of design and appearance, to be followed by material and structural faithfulness to extant medieval artifacts and representations in iconography (illustrations, effigies, and other artwork made during the era portrayed). Direct replications of items portrayed in medieval art or surviving museum pieces is encouraged, as is combination of feasible design elements from the same era. Admixture of design elements from different eras and cultures or places in a single portrayal is discouraged.

Clothing: Clothing shall be fashioned of natural fibers and materials known to have been extant in Medieval Europe from 1300AD to 1500AD, including linen, hemp, wool, fustian (a linen-cotton blend), silk, leather, and fur (natural or synthetic adhering to natural coloration), and blends made from these materials (for example silk-fustian velvet). Clothing shall faithfully adhere to patterns, fashions, and modes of wear that were worn during the era of the person portrayed. Blue hospital scrubs shall not be worn by anyone at the event.

Footwear: Footwear shall adhere faithfully to the appearance and construction style of medieval footwear with allowances for safety and comfort (ie: gel insoles, orthopedic supports, or VibramTM soles and materials applied to soles for added traction). Shoes or footwear shall be without added or elevated heels.

Belts: Belts shall be made in such a way as to use a buckle with post, and adhere to thicknesses and sizes and lengths shown to be the fashion in the era portrayed. Belt mounts and tips shall adhere to design practices and elements seen in the era from 1300AD to 1500AD.

Furniture and Accessories: Tables, chests, boxes, stools, benches, chairs, and all other accessories, objects, or items to be displayed or used outside of a tent are to be made of natural materials and adhere faithfully to medieval models and design. Articles made in a collapsible or modular manner to facilitate breakdown and transport shall be constructed so that the article does not present a modern appearance.

Tentage and Structures: Structures shall be constructed of cloth canvas of cotton, linen, or hemp in shapes and sizes depicted in art and iconography from the period from 1300AD to 1500AD. Decorations and paintings shall be in accordance with medieval design motifs seen on depictions of tents and textile art of the era portrayed. Ropes shall be of natural materials (sisal, manila, hemp, or other natural rope fiber). Tensioning devices (“dogbones”) shall be of natural materials. Stakes shall be of steel, iron, or wood and not present a modern appearance or be driven completely into the ground so they are not visible.

Armor: Armor shall be constructed of steel (mild, spring, or stainless), leather, and natural-fiber fabric and worn by persons engaged in portrayals of military persons. Armor shall be worn as a coherent and complete head to toe expression of military dress in a specific era without admixture of armor components of different eras. Armor modifications or construction elements that do not adhere to medieval models or design principles known from examples of surviving armor are not acceptable. Mail may be of butted, welded, or riveted construction.

Weapons: Weapons shall be constructed in such a fashion as to replicate the appearance of medieval weaponry incorporating design elements appropriate to the era of the weapon. Weapons worn or displayed shall be consistent with the social status and role of the portrayal and the era of the portrayal.

Coherent Portrayals:

General: The portrayals listed below are guidelines for those unfamiliar with the general clothing styles and social roles available in the era from 1300AD to 1500AD in Europe. It cannot hope to be conclusive or complete, and the medievalist is encouraged to conduct research and inquiry that will reveal many gaps and additional information not included in this summary. Medieval society is roughly hewn into the three estates, and civilian and military roles within the estates, with guidelines on minimum kit and additional elements that can be added to portray better equipped or more wealthy examples of the portrayal.

Third Estate: The Third Estate was made up of those who work. At the beginning of the era from 1300AD to 1500AD this class was considerably less wealthy than near the end, when the need for laborers, soldiers and specialists and the movement of wealth precipitated by the dual catastrophes of plague and war improved the lot of those who survived. The Third Estate is non-noble, comprising approximately ninety percent of the population in medieval Europe.

Civilian: Any of a broad range of semi-professional or professional persons engaged in occupations from shepherd to teamster to herbalist, either in their professional capacity or as private persons. Emphasis is on “soft kit,” (ie: clothing), tools and accessories used in the execution of the trade proper to the portrayal. Persons engaged in civilian professional portrayals should endeavor to obtain and become skilled at the tools that the portrayed person would have used.

Male, Rustic. Persons of this type would be laborers or craftsmen of the ruder occupations, or perhaps those whose occupations would be the most dirty and labor intensive.

1300-1350 1 set of braies, 1 pair of chausses, Long supertunic or Bocksten-style tunic, coif (weathered-looking), rope belt, leather shoes, whittle tang knife, thong garters, horn or wooden spoon, wooden bowl, wood or crockery cup.

1350-1400: As above, with hood and shorter supertunic.

1400-1450:

1450-1500:

Male, Professional. Persons of this type would be skilled persons of some professional value, perhaps scriveners, or carpenters, or doctors of law, or herbalists, or other professional men of some kind.

1300-1350: 1 set of braies, 1 pair of chausses, long supertunic, white coif or hood (preferred), leather belt with buckle, leather shoes, knife (whittle or scale tang), garters with buckles, pewter or iron spoon, crockery bowl, crockery or pewter cup.

1350-1400: 1 set of braies, 1 pair of chausses or split hosen, Cote-hardie style tunic or Herjolfnes-style gown, white coif or hood (preferred), leather belt with buckle, leather shoes, knife (whittle or scale tang), garters with buckles, pewter or iron spoon, crockery bowl, crockery or pewter cup.

1400-1450:

1450-1500:

Female, Rustic. Persons of this type would be engaged in basic kinds of labor, perhaps kitchen help, washer-women, firewood fetchers, seamstresses, or even “camp followers.”

1300-1350:

1350-1400: Kirtle or cotte, chemise, 1 pair hose, thong garters, leather shoes, whittle tang knife, rope belt, apron, head wrap, horn or wooden spoon, wooden bowl, wood or crockery cup.

1400-1450:

1450-1500:

Female, Professional. Persons of this kind might be ladies-in waiting to the lady of a member of the third estate, or a skilled professional of some kind.

1300-1350:

1350-1400: Kirtle or cotte, chemise, 1 pair hose, leather shoes, garters with buckles, leather belt with buckle, cloth purse, knife (whittle or scale tang), wimple or veil set, pewter or iron spoon, crockery bowl, crockery or pewter cup.

1400-1450:

1450-1500:

Military: Soldiers of the third estate were men who owed obligations for military service either because of the value of their possessions and income, or because they entered into contractual agreements with Captains of companies. Emphasis is on “hard kit,” (armor) and the implements of war—weapons. Ranging from barely equipped levies and retainers of petty lords or gangs of freebooters to well off Captains of companies, military persons were a frequent fact of life in the era from 1300AD to 1500AD.

Archer or Arbalester: A military professional employed in the use of a bow or crossbow. Emphasis is on kit specific to iconographic and written evidence of equipment utilized by military persons employed as archers or arbalesters. All portrayals of archers or arbalesters will be male, regardless of the gender of the person executing the portrayal.

1300-1350: Leather shoes, 1 pair chausses, 1 set braies, mid-length thigh tunic or Bocksten-style tunic, coif, leather belt with buckle, thong garters, kidney-shaped pouch, baselard, or ballock dagger, bowstave or arbalest with string, arrow or bolt bag, six accurately made arrows or bolts, horn or wooden spoon, wooden bowl, wood or crockery cup.

1350-1400: Leather shoes, 1 pair chausses, 1 set braies, Bocksten-style tunic, coif, leather belt with buckle, thong garters, kidney-shaped pouch, baselard, rondel, or ballock dagger, bowstave or arbalest with string, arrow or bolt bag, six accurately made arrows or bolts, horn or wooden spoon, wooden bowl, wood or crockery cup. Kit may include armor, to include padded jakk and steel cap (most common), to full plate harness and bascinet (least common). Kit must include bowstave (of yew, elm, or ash) or crossbow (of proper design and appearance), plus ammunition, wear of military weapons other than a falchion, broadsword, or dagger (ballock most common) discouraged.

1400-1450:

1450-1500:

Additional kit might include: More arrows or bolts, up to a “sheaf” of 24, falchion or archer’s sword, archer’s buckler, steel cap, padded “jakk,” mail haubergeon, cloth scrip, leather or pottery water flask, linen sack for stuffing with straw (for bedding), a canvas lean-to tarp, etc. Armor could include up to full harness appropriate to the era.

Man at Arms: A military professional employed in the same capacity as a fully armored esquire or knight, but paid half as much as an esquire. Emphasis is on kit specific to iconographic and written evidence of equipment utilized by military persons employed as men at arms. Kit must include transitional plate or full plate harness and bascinet, with emphasis on less complete forms (for example frontal greaves only) and munitions-grade articles. Portrayal must include some of the full range of military weapons in use during the era from 1300AD to 1500AD to include the sword, the sword of war, the dagger (rondel most common), the mace, the poll axe, and the bec de corbin.

1300-1350: Leather shoes, 1 pair chausses, 1 pair braies, 1 Bocksten-style tunic, hood, leather belt with buckle, garters with buckle, arming cote, mail leg harness with steel knee protection or steel leg harness with front-only greave, mail hauberk or haubergeon, coat of plates, steel arm harness, steel cap with coif, sword, spear, rondel dagger, kidney-shaped or bag pouch, pewter or iron spoon, crockery bowl, crockery or pewter cup.

1350-1400:

1400-1450:

1450-1500:

Additional kit might include: Pouch with knucklebones and coin replicas, cloth scrip, leather or pottery water flask, linen sack for stuffing with straw (for bedding), a canvas lean-to tarp, additional sets of clothing, etc.

Second Estate: The Second Estate was made up of those who fought, or so the saying goes. A case could be made that they did a fair amount of loafing, hunting, carousing, and leeching off the sweat of the toiling of others. However, the historical record shows that they were also intensely involved in matters of public administration and government—inquests, trials, and the dispensing of justice. Due to patterns of subinfeudination and socioeconomic turmoil resulting from fiscal problems related to war, the gentry class expanded significantly as larger holdings were divided. Generally speaking, it is impractical for all but the most experienced and dedicated to portray persons of this class, however due to the attraction of portraying noble persons among medievalists, guidelines for portraying poorer gentry-class persons, the so-called esquire, is provided. The second estate comprised--perhaps at most--five percent of the population of medieval Europe during from 1300AD to 1500AD.

Civilian: A member of the nobility in everyday finery, generally in traveling clothes.

Esquire: A man of the gentry, typically the holder of a small estate and a man of local repute and means. Emphasis is on soft kit depicted in various iconographic sources to include paintings, illustrations, and depictions of effigies, with additional emphasis on extra-personal kit which would have been brought along for use by a retinue. The portrayal may include military weapons. Portrayal should include evidence of conspicuous consumption, to include high grade material in clothing and jewelry of gold, precious metals, and precious and semi-precious stones.

Minimum kit would include: Complete head-to-toe soft kit with multiple spares, tent (at least 10’x 10’ or 10’ round), various pieces of furniture, pewter and/or crockery dining set, pewter or iron eating utensils, bedding, lanterns.

1300-1350:

1350-1400:

1400-1450:

1450-1500:

Additional kit might include: Tents for retinue, jewelry, gaming equipment, replica coins, additional items of clothing and equipment for use by retinue.

Lady: A woman of the gentry, either the wife of an esquire, or a lady of independent means. Emphasis is on soft kit depicted in various iconographic sources to include paintings, illustrations, and depictions of effigies, with additional emphasis on extra-personal kit which would have been brought along for use by a retinue. Portrayal will include no armor, and no military weapons. Portrayal may include heraldic identification common to ladies of the gentry, if desired. Portrayal should include evidence of conspicuous consumption (gold, precious metals, precious and semi-precious stones).

Minimum kit would include: Complete head-to-toe soft kit appropriate to the portrayed era with multiple spares, tent (at least 10’x 10’ or 10’ round), various pieces of furniture, pewter and/or crockery dining set, pewter or iron eating utensils, bedding, lanterns.

Additional kit might include: Tents for retinue, jewelry, gaming equipment, replica coins, additional items of clothing and equipment for use by retinue.

1300-1350:

1350-1400:

1400-1450:

1450-1500:

Military:

Esquire: The lowest rank of “men of cote armour.” Employed in the same manner as knights, but paid half as much. Emphasis is on kit specific to iconographic and written evidence of equipment used by military persons employed as esquires, with additional emphasis on extra-personal kit that is likely to have been brought along to support a retinue. Kit must include transitional plate or full plate and mail armor, with at least some items of quality and increased decoration. Portrayal must include some of the full range of military weapons in use during the era from 1300AD to 1500AD to include the sword, the sword of war, the dagger (rondel most common), the mace, the poll axe, and the bec de corbin. Portrayals may also include the incorporation of heraldic identification common to men of the esquire class during the era portrayed. Portrayal should include evidence of conspicuous consumption (gold, precious metals, precious and semi-precious stones). All portrayals of military esquires will be male, regardless of the gender of the person executing the portrayal.

Minimum kit would include: Complete head-to-toe soft kit with multiple spares, complete transitional or full plate and mail harness with gauntlets and visor, various weapons, tent (at least 10’ x 10’ or 10’ round), various pieces of furniture, pewter and or crockery dining set, pewter or iron eating utensils, bedding, lanterns.

Additional kit might include: Tents for retinue, jewelry, gaming equipment, replica coins, additional items of clothing and equipment for use by retinue. Horses are almost guaranteed, though due to issues of transport and care their absence is permissible.

1300-1350:

1350-1400:

1400-1450:

1450-1500:

First Estate: The First Estate was the clergy—those who prayed. Ranging from humble parish priests and lay members of local churches to members of religious orders to warrior priests and wealthy second sons of nobles occupying influential Abbotships and Bishoprics, the religious sentiment of the middle ages held them to be a class of their own. The portrayal of a member of the first estate would be of a person of professional or lay religious occupation, male or female. Emphasis is on soft kit specific to the various clerical orders extant from 1300AD to 1500AD. Kit will be determined by selection of clerical rank, position, and order.

Civilian: “Civilian” portrayals of clerics would be parish priests, deacons, acolytes, monks of various orders, mendicants, and other clerical persons in their traveling clothes or vestments.

Military: “Military” portrayals of members of the first estate would be of members of religious military orders, such as the Knights of Saint John, the Teutonic Order, or the Knights Templar.

Prohibitions:

General: These prohibitions are put into place to preserve a pre-modern aesthetic for all participants and also to minimize ecological impact and provide a safe and sanitary environment. These prohibitions are not inclusive and are designed to provide guidelines and clarification in cases where prohibited acts might be unclear. In no case is an act or practice that disturbs the enjoyment of other participants or the pre-modern aesthetic of the event to be construed to be permitted, even if not expressly prohibited here. Prohibitions marked with an asterisk are permitted within personal tent structures.

1. Use of tobacco products is prohibited in the medieval camp.*

2. Wear of modern glasses by those persons not legally blind without optical correction is prohibited in the medieval camp.*

3. Use and/or outside wear of cellular telephones or electronic communications devices is prohibited in the medieval camp.*

4. Disposal of human or other waste outside of those facilities provided is prohibited.

5. Parking of vehicles or erection of modern tent structures within sight of the medieval camp is prohibited.

6. Use of modern light giving or generating devices that project light outside of any tent is prohibited in the medieval camp.

7. Use of modern devices such as a radio, CD player, MP3 player, or other mechanical or electronic device that produces sound audible outside of a tent is prohibited in the medieval camp.

8. Cutting of existing vegetation for firewood or other purpose is prohibited. Also prohibited is the use of explosive or artillery means of rendering existing vegetation into combustible fuel for fires.

9. Set-up or breakdown of camps is not permitted outside the hours of 8:00am to 4:00pm.

Frequently Asked Questions:

General: The below narratives address a variety of questions that may arise.

What is this thing all about anyway?

Crossroads in Time is about applied medievalism and immersion.

This event was conceived during the Age of Chivalry Renaissance Faire in 2005, when the members of the newly-formed living history group Compaignye du Chalis realized that their efforts did not have a suitable outlet or venue. It was decided to consider alternatives to the events that the group had attended in the past.

Shortly after, it was concluded that no suitable venue or event existed in the Western United States for medieval living history, or that existing venues were too distant from Las Vegas, Nevada, the group’s base. Because of this, it was decided that it would be necessary to host an event.

Understanding that there were very few groups in the Western United States with an avowed goal to pursue high fidelity presentation of 14th century civilian and military persons, objects, and activities, the Compaignye du Chalis decided that an event designed to provide a focus for the efforts of groups and individuals interested in pursuing high fidelity portrayals would be enjoyable and could have the effect of encouraging isolated medievalists in their pursuit of living history.

Because of these goals and intents, one could best describe Crossroads in Time as a living history seminar and festival. It is a professional or vocational event that combines self and group education with recreation.

Can you explain to me what living history is?

Living history refers to a method of education or recreation that involves immersion in historical context. The goal of living history is to increase understanding of a place, practice, culture, or time (in this case the late middle ages) by surrounding the participants in sensory inputs replicating appropriate elements of time, place, practice, and culture. It is also considered important to mitigate or remove distracting elements or objects not appropriate to the time, place, practice, or culture being experienced.

In the United States, several groups are pursuing living history in the era from 1300 to 1500. These links can provide some useful information about living history and applied medievalism in general:
http://www.labelle.org/
http://www.redshield-1391.org/
http://www.wolfeargent.com/
http://www.theredcompany-1471.org/ (status indeterminate, site still up)
http://www.mron.org
http://www.camlann.org

Where and when will this event be held?

Site selection and market research to determine a suitable location is being conducted. The exact site location will be announced at least six months ahead of time so interested parties can make arrangements for participation.

The event will be held on dates between April 15 and July 15 2007. Research of weather conditions at prospective sites on particular dates, the effect of holidays on participation, and prospective participant demographics is being conducted. The precise dates of the event will be announced as soon as the site and all other arrangements are secured.

I would like to attend this event, but it is too distant to drive. What options do I have if I want to participate?

The event will be held within some proximity to a major air travel hub. The best course of action in such a case is to make lodging arrangements at the site with another group or individual who has a tent (either replica or modern), or to make lodging arrangements off site at a hotel and then travel daily to the event via rented conveyance.

This event is too long for me to attend the whole thing. How will you address day-visits and people who want to participate for only part of the event?

Persons who wish to attend the event, for however long, must pay the full site fee. This is fair to those who are attending the entire event, and makes for simple accounting.

It is not required that participants remain at the site for the entire time; for example a person or group could arrive on the fourth day of the event and leave on the seventh day, if they wish.

I don’t have a replica tent. How do I participate?

There will be a place set aside for the erection and use of modern camping equipment. This site will be out of visual contact of the medieval camp and event proper, but it will be within walking distance.

I don’t have replica clothes or kit. How do I obtain them? How do I know what is appropriate to my portrayal?

Many people, even those who have been involved in re-enactment or applied medievalism, lack a kit appropriate for use in high fidelity re-enactment, so don’t feel alone or discouraged. There is ample time to consider your desired portrayal and obtain suitable kit to execute that portrayal.

There are a number of sellers of living history or re-enactment goods appropriate for use at this event. Inquiries on various internet bulletin boards such as Firestryker (http://www.wolfeargent.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi ), the Armour Archive ( www.armourarchive.org ), Sword Forum International ( http://www.swordforum.com/ ) and others will yield a wealth of information. In addition, two United States vendors of medieval clothing and wares are especially helpful: Historic Enterprises (http://www.historicenterprises.com/ ) and Revival Clothing (http://www.revivalclothing.com/ ).

You use the terms “high fidelity,” “coherent” and “medieval models” a lot. What does that mean?

“Consistency” and “Coherency” refer to the appropriateness of items to be used alongside one another because of their use in the same era in history. The overall goal is that a portrayal shall be recognizable as representative of a particular era. As an example, a man at arms kit with mail for leg protection (used in the early 14th century) and an armet (used in the later 15th century) for a helmet is not consistent or coherent. However, if a steel cap and coif, or a bascinet were used, then the items would present a coherent portrayal.

The term “medieval models” refers to the use of medieval design elements in an article. Again, the overall goal is that the item should be instantly recognizable as a replica of a medieval object represented either in a surviving artifact or in a painting, drawing, statue, or other artistic representation. As an example, a wooden bench made in the style shown in a painting from the year 1386 without visible modern hardware adheres to the medieval model. A wooden bench made in the art deco style with visible screws does not.

“High fidelity” refers to the successful application of intent to copy a medieval object. A coat cut to the right length and shape, made of materials extant in the era from 1300AD to 1500AD and appropriate to the portrayal, without visible machine stitching and with buttons replicating finds from the river Thames is an example of high fidelity. The same coat made with synthetic materials, visible machine stitching, and plastic buttons of medieval design is not an example of high fidelity.

How about pets?

Because of the length of this event, pets are permitted, provided that they have all shots required by the laws of the locality that the event is held in, and that they are controlled according to the laws of the state and county that the event is held in. These documents and procedures will be reviewed upon arrival.

Leashes and accessories for pets will be held to the same requirements as human kit, as regards visual faithfulness to medieval design aesthetic.

Pets present both the opportunity for joy and the opportunity for trouble. The owners of pets will be liable for the behavior of their animals, and an unruly or bothersome pet and its owner will be ejected from the site without refund or recourse. If you are unfamiliar with the personality of your pet in field conditions, are concerned with the health of your pet due to ticks or other hazards found in the out of doors, or if your pet does not get along well in busy, unfamiliar settings or in the presence of unfamiliar people and horses, or makes calls or barks uncontrollably, it is recommended that you enlist a friend who can look after your pet at home or obtain suitable kennel or boarding arrangements.

How are you addressing sanitation and hygiene?

Because of the nature of the event, and because those arranging for the event are doing so not out of a desire for profit but because they desire to enjoy the event, only basic services are provided.

Chemical latrines in sufficient quantity to service the participants, located in a place convenient for their use without negatively impacting the aesthetic of the event will be available. Dumpsters for the disposal of trash will be available, as will sturdy garbage bags. Potable water will be provided by means of a water truck or trailer.

However, each participating group and individual is responsible for movement of trash to the dumpster, transport of water from the water point, and bringing means to secure their own personal hygiene such as a camp shower (to be used inside a tent).

The event will be held in a location close enough to a town or city that participants may choose to take a trip into town and have a shower or bath at their expense, or to satisfy other needs of hygiene which are difficult to address at a primitive site.

Will there be combat or fighting? What about archery or other martial activities?

The emphasis of the event is not on combat, at least no more than it is on any other aspect of medieval life. Persons bringing authentic or replica archery equipment will have an area provided for its use. Western Martial Arts instruction is welcome. There will be no “tacticals” or group martial re-enactment at this event, but discussion of this for future gatherings is welcome.

In all cases, the requirement for all kit to adhere faithfully to medieval models of design and material composition as given in Kit Requirements, above, applies.

Individuals interested in engaging in free-play chivalric combats may do so, provided the guidelines for combat as stated below are followed:

A. Formal Combats (Deeds of Arms) were done between two or more men at arms of the gentry class or up; "Men of Cote." What is this? Two well armored men at arms with personal heraldry depicting at least the esquire class.

B. Deeds of Arms were at least semi-formal affairs with some kind of pre-arrangement, even if it is so little as to say "I think you look at me too directly, meet me upon the field in an hour to satisfy honor." With a smile, of course, in this case, because it is merely a pretense.

C. Men of Cote must wear full harness to Deeds of Arms. The armor must be actual armor. There isn't much need to go further, especially among those who understand living history or high fidelity re-enactment. I could define material specifications all day long and someone would find a backdoor--as I will here demonstrate by attempting to provide a road that those who get it will follow to its logical conclusion:

i. All harness worn must provide full body, head, and limb coverage to include shins and hands appropriate to the era of harness depicted and replicate or approximate a harness depicted in iconography (brasses, illustrations, effigies, statuary, or other art). Persons bringing out of the ordinary harness should bring a printed copy of the iconography justifying it for the education of all present. Especial attention shall be paid to joint, neck and throat head, and spine protection.

ii. Steel plate (stainless, mild, or spring), steel mail (stainless, mild, or spring--butted or riveted is equally acceptable), splinted leather defenses, textile armors (cotton, fustian, linen, hemp, or silk), brass, bronze, soft or hardened leather are acceptable materials.

iii. The addition of modern or ahistorical protective gear beneath layers of accurately depicted foundation garments or completely hidden by harness is optional at the wearer's discretion (for example a body bracelet for protection of the kidneys and lower vertebrae).

iv. The absence of complete harness hidden by textile shells is not permitted; simulation of complete harness achieved by use of a textile shell or covering garment is not permitted. Use of purely ahistorical torso armor covered by textile shells is not permitted.

v. Modifications of medieval harness made to suit SCA combat conventions is unauthorized: no bargrills, no basket hilts, no shield baskets.

vi. Armor construction techniques which are standard modern practice are acceptable: welded helmet construction, welded cop and poleyn construction, machine riveted mail, machine sewing, are acceptable.

vii. No aluminum, plastic, or titanium shields. No plastic, rubber, or other modern shield edging. Plywood shields are acceptable provided the nature of the material is concealed by leather, cloth, or paint.

viii. Footwear of modern appearance is prohibited. Welt soles are permissible, provided the footwear presents the approximation of medieval footwear existing from 1300AD to 1500AD

D. Blow calling and calibration are un-necessary. Combatants either yield or are stopped from further combat by the King of Arms.

E. Acted out wounds is prohibited and universally considered by medievalists to be ahistorical practice.

F. Falling down will be either due to actual distress or accident, not to simulate "death" or "stunning."

G. Steel weapons will be rebated steel weapons with edges of at least 1mm, and a tip not smaller than a U.S. nickel in size, clean and without burs, made by a manufacturer acceptable to both combatants. Men at arms desiring to do combat with rebated steel weapons are responsible for determining the acceptability of their desired weapon in coordination with their opponent.

H. Wooden weapons will be either wood or rattan bastons made in the fashion suggested by King Rene, covered with thin unhardened leather, to simulate either a mace or a sword. The length of such bastons shall not exceed thirty-six inches in total in any case.

I. Combatants shall before each contest agree upon what shall be permitted, and not deviate from those permissions given.

This all sounds dangerous. Is this safe?

Not completely.

Participation in an event of this nature involves a fair amount of field craft, possibilities of encounters with animal and insect pests, bad weather, driving long distances, people unfamiliar with each other, wearing weapons, participating in WMA instruction and free-play combats, and employing siege engines some distance from a town. All participants will sign a waiver explaining that they understand the risks involved and hold the permit holders non-liable for any injuries caused by participation.

This sounds excellent! But I’ll be seventeen at the time of the event. Can I participate?

If your legal guardians attend and participate, yes. If not, use this year to develop your kit, and we’ll be glad to see you next time!


Registered: Feb 2004  |  IP: Logged
Melanie Unruh
New Member
Member # 827

posted 01-22-2006 12:31 AM     Profile for Melanie Unruh   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by John McFarlin:


The questions I have are like this:

1. Between say, Kansas City Kansas as an extreme eastern longitude and the west coast of North America, how many persons are interested in a HYW/WOR-era (1300 to 1500) gathering of companies are there?

At least a few families here in the Denver area.


2. If an event was located in a primitive setting purely for the entertainment value and the comeradery of the thing, for the purpose of charging our batteries, showcasing our technology, having some quality goods for purchase or trade, listening to some correct to the era music, engaging in a little sparring or weapons training--would there be interest?

Enthusiastic interest.

3. What requirements would you have in order to participate in such a gathering?

Mostly a list of the standards and expectations - other than that, we can adapt to most any thing.

I need some experience and some wisdom on this matter. I have a year before I will be able to enjoy my hobby, but I can use that year to set something in motion which could profit all persons in the western U.S. interested in high middle ages re-enactment and living history.

I am at your service. I have considerable experience in organization and logistics.

[ 01-22-2006: Message edited by: Melanie Unruh-Bays ]

--------------------

Lijsbet
Denver, CO


Registered: Jun 2005  |  IP: Logged

All times are ET (US)  

Post New Topic  Post A Reply Close Topic    Move Topic    Delete Topic next oldest topic   next newest topic
Hop To:

Contact Us | Wolfe Argent Living History

Copyright © 2000-2009 Wolfe Argent Living History. All Rights reserved under International Copyright Conventions. No part of this website may be reproduced or utilized in any form or by any means, electronic or mechanical, including photocopying, recording, or by any information storage or retrieval system, without permission of the content providers. Individual rights remain with the owners of the posted material.

Powered by Infopop Corporation
Ultimate Bulletin Board 6.01