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Topic: "Salt-Shaker" helm
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Chuck Morris
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posted 01-06-2008 05:34 PM
   
Hi. I am new to the forum. I was wondering what the latest possible date the Salt-shaker helm was in use. I am at a loss for the real name of this helm, lol...Thanks. -------------------- Well, hello Mr. Fancypants!
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jboerner
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posted 01-08-2008 06:25 AM
I know this kind of Helmet under the name "barbiere". Though I do not have an example picture, I would say the usage ends about the end of the first quarter of the 13th century, depending on the region and status of the person, with the development of the great helmet with longer neck protection, as can be seen in the Morgan bible arround 1250-60, paris.
But for more detailled information I suggest to look into several early-13th century manuscripts from different regions. I would expect it to having been in use for a longer time in germany then elsewhere.Please keep in mind that this is a rider's helmet, which leaves you with the need to reconstruct the full equipment of a rider odf that time, presumingly with clothing (which should come first, depending on your goals) and so on. Only to add that, I'm not sure how new you are to this altogether. [ 01-08-2008: Message edited by: jboerner ] -------------------- Diu Minnezīt
Reconstruction of textiles, armour and daily life
1250,1350,1475
Nuremberg and Paris
http://www.diu-minnezit.de IG Meisterhauw
Reconstruction of late medieval and early renaissance fencing techniques
http://www.meisterhauw.de Nuremberg in the middle ages
http://www.nuernberg-im-mittelalter.de
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chef de chambre
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posted 01-12-2008 09:56 AM
Most likely mail and padding of some sort. There are indicators in art showing large top circumference great helms may have had the wearer wearing some sort of a padded donut that was a part of a coif worn under them.I believe cevelliers worn over coifs, under great helms do appear by the mid 13th century. But these ceveliers were probably worn over a coif of mail, (or UNDER a coif of mail, in some cases), and did not have a suspended aventail. -------------------- Bob R.
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