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Sean Belair
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posted 10-09-2006 08:44 AM     Profile for Sean Belair     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
i am completly new to living history
and own nothing but swords so i am a blank slate as far as kit goes. i want to represent an italian or savoy mercinary in the service of good old charles the bold. here is what i was thinking
from matuls
green burgundian stile dublet, charcoal gray hosen with the foot built in, 15th century shirt with tie neck, braies and italian stile hat

from historic enterprises
turnshoes

eventualy
mitten gauntlets, visored export sallet, and padded jack

im making a rondel now and will begin a period longsword soon.

will machine stiching be fine?
i would apreciate any coments/critacism you have, i want to do this right
thanks

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Fire Stryker
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posted 10-09-2006 09:51 AM     Profile for Fire Stryker   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hi Sean,

most groups are okay with the machine stitching as long as any visible seams or finishing touches are hand done.

I tend to shy away from mixing clothing styles, Burgundian with an Italian hat.

If you are a "new" recruit or have only just arrived in Burgundy, then you would probably have a suit of clothing in the Italian fashion and would eventually adopt the look of Burgundy as time passes.

Gwen may have a better notion of the Italian styles and other suggestions.

I'll let the armour guys answer the question on metal stuff.

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Gwen
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posted 10-09-2006 01:53 PM     Profile for Gwen   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Check with the authenticity officer for the group you plan to participate with. Every group has their own spin and standards which make it very difficult to make meaningful generalizations that will apply from group to group.

Gwen


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posted 10-09-2006 05:49 PM     Profile for chef de chambre   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Ditto to what Gwen said - even though there are very few 15th century groups here stateside, the ones that exist tend to have wildly different ideas of what constitutes accuracy for their portrayals.

For instance, with Wolfe Argent we strictly look to Low Countries sources for laying out what the various portrayals clothing and harness styles should be - not only art, butinventories and other documents. Other groups are perfectly fine with looking primarily to art, and to art of varying regions as well when determining such standards. Some groups have a very narrow focus, others span a decade or more of time (but still a very narrow focus in comparison to larger medievalist orginizations).

Always check with a groups authenticity officers before investing hard earned money into kit which might be innapropriate.

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I should add that for Wolfe Argent, what you describe is fine, save for the hat, unless you are supposed to be one of Giacommo Galetto's Italian recruits, when he took over the 10th company in November of 1474.

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Sean Belair
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posted 10-09-2006 09:10 PM     Profile for Sean Belair     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
i was hopeing to join wolf argent
i dont have my heart set on anything in particulor
origonaly i thought of italian origin so i wouldnt have to wear the puffed sleave dublet but i have sence come to turms with it. the hat was just to support the italian portrail. sort of an odd circle.

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