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Bob Hurley
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Member # 58

posted 04-26-2003 05:43 PM

I'm trying to put together a c1470 impression of a miner on a military campaign. After looking at Chef's post on impressions, it looks to me that sapper might be better considering that I'm likely to be the lone one of either at an event. A single miner isn't going to get much done, but a lone sapper could be useful.

Any comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated, particularly books.

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Fire Stryker
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posted 04-26-2003 08:01 PM

Hi Bob,

I think a sapper/pioneer would be an excellent impression. As you mention, a single one makes a lot more sense than a single miner. All you need for defensive armour going by the Burgundian source originaly quoted ia a jack and a sallet, and a woodsmans axe wouldn't be hard to come by.

It would be a unique impression of a useful, indespensible support troop, and it wouldn't bankrupt youputting together an impression.

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Friedrich
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posted 04-26-2003 11:41 PM

I can offer a book suggestion. A few pages here and there but it's a good start...

SIEGE - Castles at War
Mark Donnelly and Daniel Diehl

Only a half a dozen pages but a good quick overview about sapping in general with a few good diagrams

Probably some of the better mining books or documents would all be in German as that was a major industry especially for Western Germany towards Cologne (Köln).

For anyone wanting an appreciation to actually mining... I got to see the massive underground mining exhibit at the Deutsches Museum in Munich. (Not recommended for people who get claustrophobic.)

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Bob Hurley
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posted 04-27-2003 07:48 PM

Thanks Jenn & Freidrich,

I ordered the book from Amazon, but it looks like it will be a month or so coming.

As to mining, I spent 15 years as a coal miner in a variety of mining conditions, and a year of that as dynamiter. Now, if I can just find an event where they'll let me dig a tunnel or blow something up...

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NEIL G
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posted 05-19-2003 10:04 AM

If it's any help, peter spufford's "Power and profit" includes a section of mining in (mostly) germany, and has a number of pictures of german miners, along with the remark that they mostly wore white, for visibility underground (NB - these were silver miners, not coal miners)

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Gascoing
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posted 11-06-2006 10:26 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Fire Stryker:
I think a sapper/pioneer would be an excellent impression [...]
All you need for defensive armour going by the Burgundian source originaly quoted ia a jack and a sallet, ...

Hello,

Do you talk about a burgundian source dealing specifically with defensive armour for pioneers? If it's the case, I'd love to read the quote...

Cheers,

Loïc

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gregory23b
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posted 11-07-2006 07:50 AM

A few images of miners (coal or ore) in Venus and Mars, medieval house book, published by Prestel.

They have specifically designed hoods to stop the dust and bits falling down their necks, also in one what looks like the corner of a sack over the head, something coal deliverers might have worn a while back.

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