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Gael de la Brêche
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posted 07-20-2006 01:41 AM     Profile for Gael de la Brêche     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hello, We have just finished our first brigandine.

We chose a late model for corresponding well to my harnois of Nuremberg of the end of XVe .
It is fixed on each side by a long lacing. Each plate measures 5cm x 3cm and is attached by 4 aligned rivets.

What think about it?
I largely thank you for your criticisms and your assistance which helps us and makes us progress.

Cordially


Lelong Gaël
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jboerner
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posted 07-20-2006 07:48 AM     Profile for jboerner   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Nice. I have several Questions: you mention a nuremberg harness you wear the brigantine with; do you know of any evidences for brigandines being worn in southern germany?
What material is the brigantine made from, how is the inner finished, and on what does it base (which brigantine still existing?)

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Diu Minnezît
Reconstruction of textiles, armour and daily life
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Nuremberg and Paris
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IG Meisterhauw
Reconstruction of late medieval and early renaissance fencing techniques
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Nuremberg in the middle ages
http://www.nuernberg-im-mittelalter.de


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Merv Cannon
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posted 07-25-2006 09:11 AM     Profile for Merv Cannon     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Wow.....thats so nice that I just drooled on my keyboard !! Well Done !

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Wolf
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posted 07-25-2006 05:17 PM     Profile for Wolf   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
nice interpretation. how does it open? where did you get the rivets?

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Gael de la Brêche
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posted 07-26-2006 03:48 AM     Profile for Gael de la Brêche     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
you mention a nuremberg harness you wear the brigantine with; do you know of any evidences for brigandines being worn in southern germany?

No, I'm playing a burgundian men at arm who wearing german stuffs.
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What material is the brigantine made from

wool velvet with fine leather skin and 1mm steel plate (5cm x 3cm)

here a picture of the inner

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and on what does it base (which brigantine still existing?)

The original one is in picture in the osprey of the war of the 2 roses.

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how does it open?

It is fixed on each side by a long lacing.

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where did you get the rivets?

it is a friend who made some for him and has which one repurchased some.

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jboerner
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posted 07-26-2006 03:55 AM     Profile for jboerner   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Very nice. I wonder...what evidences is the wool velvet based on? I only know silk velvet form the middle ages, that's why I'm asking.

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Diu Minnezît
Reconstruction of textiles, armour and daily life
1250,1350,1475
Nuremberg and Paris
http://www.diu-minnezit.de

IG Meisterhauw
Reconstruction of late medieval and early renaissance fencing techniques
http://www.meisterhauw.de

Nuremberg in the middle ages
http://www.nuernberg-im-mittelalter.de


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Gael de la Brêche
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posted 07-26-2006 07:07 AM     Profile for Gael de la Brêche     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I chose this wool velvet because this velvet is very thick and hardness (it dates from the beginning of the XXe S) and because I did not have financial means to buy silk velvet.

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Gwen
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posted 07-26-2006 12:56 PM     Profile for Gwen   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hello Lelong-

I am wondering about the "wool velvet" in your brig. Do you mean the fabric the velvet is made from comes from the hair of sheep? If so, I have never heard of velvet made of wool! I wonder if perhaps "wool" is a translation flaw. Could you explain please? This is very interesting!

Thank you-

Gwen


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Fire Stryker
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posted 07-26-2006 01:24 PM     Profile for Fire Stryker   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Wool velvet exists. I did a search on it not too long ago.

I think it's early 20th century.

J

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Dave Rylak
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posted 07-26-2006 05:07 PM     Profile for Dave Rylak     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Mohair velvets are fairly common in high end upholstry fabics. It's wonderfully tough stuff but I don't know about it's availability in period.
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Pierre-Yves Bertrand
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posted 08-06-2006 03:00 PM     Profile for Pierre-Yves Bertrand     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
It's a very nice work at all!!! Perfect shape!! Is the plate inside are tinned? I'm impatient to see it live!! Congratulation Geal for your figure in armour.
Pierre-Yves.

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chef de chambre
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posted 10-15-2006 01:30 PM     Profile for chef de chambre   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hello,

You did a lovely job. I see only one problem with the design - side closure brigandines with plates that small, and with the nauil patterns in single rows dates to the 1490's at earliest, and is most common for the first two decades of the 16th century.

You did a very good job at replicating one, and you should be proud of it, but no subject of Valois Burgundy ever wore one, although his son or grandson might have.

[ 10-15-2006: Message edited by: chef de chambre ]

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Angelique
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posted 10-16-2006 11:33 AM     Profile for Angelique     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Just as a quick note "velvet" is a term used to describe a fabric weave, just like "satin." You can make use a 'weave' with many different fabric stuffs such as linen, hemp, silk and wool

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Wolffhart
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posted 10-16-2006 08:39 PM     Profile for Wolffhart     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Gael the Brig looks really good, Who did the rest of the armour?

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